So there was this:
As it happens, none of this has anything whatsoever to do with the actual definition of Fascism. Fascism is a totalitarian political system with complete state control of every aspect of the economy and daily life and usually headed by a charismatic supreme dictator. The above is just a list of things that Marxists (whether cryptomarxist or actually “out”) want to complain about. But let’s take them one at a time.
- Powerful and continuing Nationalism. You think this is a characteristic of fascism? Does the Russian nationalism of the Soviet Union make them fascist? How about China? Oh, sure the Soviet Union was always on and on about “International Socialism” but when you look at their actions what they meant was “Russian Supremacy and Suzerainty over the world.” Their foreign policy was all about making others follow Russia’s lead (and that included the other “Republics” in the “Union of Soviet Socialist Republics”).
- Disdain for Human Rights. You mean rights like free speech, the ability to buy and sell property as one will, the ability to use ones property as one sees fit? Those kind of rights? How about the right to worship as one sees fit? How about the right to defend one’s life against those who would do one harm and the right to the most effective tools for such defense. How about the right to liberty? Yeah, I see a lot of disdain for human rights but it’s not by those being labeled “fascist” by folk who share things like the above. No, it’s by people like the antifa apologist who shared that (where I got it). It’s people like antifa.
- Identifying of enemies as a unifying cause. “Capitalists.” “The One Percent.” “Zionists.” Oh, and, of course, labeling anybody you don’t like and want to demonize as “fascist.”
- Supremacy of the Military.
You mean like this (note, that video is more than an hour long):
5. Rampant sexism. Perhaps you should define your terms? Is it sexism when one group makes choices that lead to different outcomes? (Example: a degree in social work, let alone feminist dance therapy, will generally lead to a lower income in the work force than one in electrical engineering. And yet, more women go into one field and more men into another.) Is it sexism that taking oneself out of the work force for an extended period means that one is going to end up behind folk who didn’t do that. (Even if the reason is to have children and raise a family.) Is it sexism that never married women who never had children average 17% more income then men in the same category? Also, have you actually looked at fascist and Nazi society. They were perfectly willing to put women to work right alongside the men for the greater good of the state. The “fascism is sexist” is just something folk have made up because it suits them to claim that about their political opponents.
6. Controlled mass media. Well, maybe, but one has to look at just who controls the mass media. Hint: it’s not the people being called “fascist” by Antifa & Co. And controlling the media isn’t particularly a fascist trait. Totalitarians of all stripes do it. Oh, and calling out the mass media on lies or merely vociferously disagreeing with them is not “controlling”. Being mass media does not make them immune to criticism, even by those in positions of authority.
7. Obsession with National Security. See video above with the Red Square parades. Or see the arms buildups of places like China, Cuba, or any place else that is communist run. They are seriously concerned about their national security. It’s our national security they want to fall by the wayside, them and their willing quislings in our media and politics (including the antifa crowd. But, again, it’s not something that’s particularly a “fascist” trait.
8. Religion and government intertwined. Um, that’s…bizarre. Musollini (the inventor of fascism) wasn’t particularly religious. Neither was Hitler. Some of the Nazi ruling council was, but others were…different. We had some obsessed with the occult. Others, didn’t particularly care one way or another. Either would cynically use whatever tools could be used to direct the people in directions they wanted them to go, whether it’s insignia saying “Gott mit uns” or inventing a history making Germanic pagan myths a national identity, or making “Aryans” (a root from which we get the word “Iran”) as an ethnic heritage. None of it has anything to do with anyone’s real religious beliefs.
And, indeed, mixing of religion with Government has largely been the default throughout history, from the presumed divinity of rulers, or the watered-down version of the “divine right of kings”, to the establishment of State churches so common in much of the world. It’s hardly a fascist trait.
9. Corporate power protected. If by “protected” you mean “completely controlled by the state. As Mussolini said: “All within the state. Nothing outside the state. Nothing against the state.” Businesses are centrally controlled and “managed.” It’s a centrally planned economy. Exactly. The. Same. As. Socialism. The only difference, and it’s trivial in its importance, is that “on paper” ownership remains private. The control, and with it the real ownership is by the central government, exactly as it is in socialism. Fascism is simply a form of socialism, retaining a few fig-leafs of private ownership to pretend it’s otherwise.
10. Labor Power Suppressed. Well, strictly speaking, all power other than the State is suppressed, again exactly as it is in socialist/communist governments. Oh, sure, various promises are made going in, but the end result is the same either way: All within the state. Nothing outside the state. Nothing against the state. They are all built on a foundation and structure of central planning and control.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts. Ask Solzhenitsyn how much disdain Communism had for his intellectual status and art (writing in his case). And as for fascist/nazi disdain for intellectuals, who, exactly put the first jet fighter into operation? Who put the first jet bomber? Who developed new techniques which utterly revolutionized warfare? The first guided missile? The first ballistic missile? Who declared “Today, the space ship is born”? The military art and science is as much an intellectual endeavor as any other. But, in addition, both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy engaged and used many artists and intellectuals. The ideologies demanded it But, like all totalitarian societies, they required that the intellectuals and the arts adhere to politically determined standards. Thus we had Lysenkoism in the Soviet Union, and the bizarre “science” behind China’s “Great Leap Forward” and Cambodia’s “Killing Fields.” The problem is not that fascists disdain intellectuals and the arts, but that in totalitarian regimes the arts and sciences are shackled to “political truth” with any dissent ruthlessly squelched. Note that disagreement (even wrong disagreement) is not “disdain. It is the testing of idea against idea where truth truly emerges. People need to be free to say “I think that’s wrong and here’s why” to which others can reply, “no, you’re wrong and here are the reasons.” People need to recognize that the science is never settled, that there’s always the possibility that some new bit of information might come to light which sets everything we thought we knew on its ear (like two guys in Cleveland, named Michelson and Morley, did with classical physics). Truth, real truth, will out in an environment of intellectual freedom. Suppressing ideas and thoughts and beliefs because “those guys are wrong” or worse, by challenging the presumed motives of someone making an argument rather than the content of the argument itself prevents that from happening.
It’s not the presumed “fascists”, by and large, who are doing all that, but the supposed “anti-fascists” themselves.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Um, you think that’s a fascist trait? Have you actually looked at other even reasonably well developed societies, let alone the prisons and gulags of communist societies? All societies have penalties attached to those who break the rules. Thomas Sowell notes that a lot of the rise in crime, in victimization of people, in the US, can be traced to a move away from punishment to hair-brained schemes for “rehabilitation.” This is not to say that rehabilitation is impossible but basing it on wishful thinking rather than hard reality is a recipe for failure. In any case, “obsession with crime and punishment is hardly a fascist trait.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Okay, this is just ridiculous. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, with more cronyism and corruption than communist/socialist countries unless it might possibly be third world hellholes. The problems of fascist societies is less the corruption (except that a certain amount of corruption is necessary to work around the nascent disaster that any centrally planned economy will require) than it is the top down planning itself that, invariably, will create a mess that people will have to find “creative means” (i.e. corruption in the technical sense) to try to work around. See “The Nail” for why that might be.
14. Fraudulent Elections: Fraud by mail. Early Frauding. Same day register to Fraud and Fraud. The people caught voting multiple times have been, by and large, folk on the Left, not the folk antifa & co call “nazis” or “fascists.” No, what they object to are attempts to institute policies to prevent such fraud. Seems to me that what’s going on here is:
So some of these things are fairly broad in civilizations in general. Some are common to totalitarian societies of all stripes (fascist or otherwise) and generally accused by folk like antifa against folk to whom they don’t apply. None of them–not one–is specific to fascism.
If anything it’s groups like Antifa and BLM that meet the real definition of fascism–All within the state. Nothing outside the state. Nothing against the state.
In the end, it really looks like “Antifa” is rather “ante-fa”–“ante fascist”, as in “preparing the way for.” They certainly aren’t fighting “fascists.” Bluntly, calling anyone who advocates smaller, less intrusive government and for more personal and economic freedom “fascist” requires a special kind of stupid.
But that’s something in which “antifa” seems to excel.